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05 May 2010

Going to Club 440

There are a lot of aspects to consider when deciding to go to a Swinger club, and Club 440 is no exception.  Here is a list of a lot of the common questions and helpful tips for those that have never been to Club 440 before (or never been to any Swinger club, for that matter).  Before heading there, check out the club's website at http://www.club440online.com/ to confirm pricing, hours, rules, and events, since the article you are about to read is not associated with or maintained by Club 440 in any form.

What should I expect?
A common answer to this question regarding Club 440 is "Expect nothing, but be prepared for anything." Don't walk into a Swinger club expecting to have sex -- desiring is one thing, expecting is another.  You are not paying for sex when you pay your fee to get in a Swinger club, you are paying for the facilities and the opportunity to be a part of the atmosphere.  Your success in having sex is directly related to how you interact with the people there, because it is all about people going there looking for some experience or person.  However, when someone finds you attractive and you are invited to join them in a room, be prepared to quickly get everything squared away, including condoms and permission from your spouse or partner if appropriate.  If you go there and decide not to bring condoms (for yourself or the person you are interested in to use) or haven't talked with your partner about if it's ok if you are invited to have sex with someone, you may be setting yourself up to miss out.  Tonight could be the night!  Bring condoms and have things worked out with your partner about if it is ok for you to participate with others.

What will I see?
When you first walk in it will look a lot like a nightclub or a bar with a dance floor.  The earlier in the evening you get there, the more people will be dressed in nice evening/street clothes or clubbing clothes.  From 10pm on, more and more of the women tend to switch into more revealing and sexier clothing, and some remove more and more clothing.  To be fair, there are some women that are mostly or totally unclothed the whole night, but the trend is for that to happen more the later it gets.  The unfair part (to the women) is that there are very few men that shed clothing at the club unless they are in private.

The dancing seems to follow a trend similar to the revealing clothing.  The real dancing seems to start picking up around 10pm.  The music tends to be a mix of R&B, hip hop, top 40, rock, country, and some of the party line dances (think "cupid shuffle" & "electric slide", usually not the "chicken dance" or "hokey pokey").  There will be music with driving beats that you can just move your body to any which way, and slow dances that you can just sway to with your partner. 

Do we have to have sex out in the open?
If you hit it off with a couple (or single guy or single girl) there are private rooms, and there is also a secluded "couples only" open group area where you can play while others are around you doing the same thing after getting all worked up in the sexy dancing / bar atmosphere. Also, in the private rooms you have 3 options: door closed, door open, and door open with chain. If you have the door open with the chain across the doorway that means "please enjoy watching us but do not come in". If you leave the door open, that means "please come in and watch us up close, but ask before you try to join in or touch". The chain is pretty fun if you like being watched without interruptions!  If the door is closed you should be left alone until you are all done. [Edit 11-Aug-2013: The chains were removed from the doors, so currently the only option is door open or door closed in the private rooms.]

What should I bring?
Bring the following:
  • Cash for membership or entrance fee (MUCH easier than a credit card)
  • Photo ID, membership card if a member
  • Extra clothes (sexy clothes, lingerie, leather, lace, high heels, boots, etc.)
  • A duffle bag or gym bag to carry your clothes and other items in and out of the club
  • Combination lock for locker (set your own combination ones are best)
  • Alcohol (Club 440 is BYOB)
  • Sex toys (if you're into that)
  • Respect
What should I leave in the car or at home?
Cameras and video recording equipment are not permitted inside.  That means cell phones with cameras.  If you need your cell phone with you but it has a camera, you'll have to leave it at the front desk when you come in.  If you are seen with a camera (still or video) inside it will likely get confiscated and you will be banned from coming back by the club ownership, and individuals photographed without permission will probably have their lawyers calling you.  Swinger clubs are PRIVATE places designed to make everyone comfortable "letting their hair down" without worrying about people taking pictures unless loudly announced by the club staff.  Cameras are simply not tolerated.

You can probably leave extra cash at home, since soft drinks, bottled water, ice, snacks, and an entree are provided.  Bring some quarters if you play pool, and $2 for NOS energy drinks if you might need it to stay up until 3am.

Also, leave the drama at home.  If you eventually don't get along with someone , ignore them and stay away from them -- there's plenty of room at the club.  Antagonizing them will get YOU kicked out, not them. 

Is Club 440 an "on-premise" or "off-premise" Swinger club?
Club 440 is an "on-premise" club complete with with bedlinens, towels, and even "baby wipes" to use in the private rooms with plastic-covered mattresses.

What does BYOB mean exactly?
As far as we know, all Ohio clubs are Bring-your-own-booze.  440 has big glass refrigerated coolers so you can store any alcohol and mixers you bring and make your own drinks exactly how you like them.  The club supplies free food: some snacks, a hot entree (different each night), and free bottled water and Pepsi fountain soft drinks, but no alcohol, fruit juice, or "mixers".  Bring enough alcohol to enjoy yourselves, but avoid getting really drunk -- most people just won't be as interested in interacting with you if you seem like you aren't in control of what you are doing.

How much will it cost?
For the official answer, go to http://www.club440online.com/  There are occasionally specials and discounts being offered, so join the 440 Yahoo group to hear about any specials and what the themes are: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Club440/

Is it better to come Friday night or Saturday night?
The best night is both nights. There is no way to predict what each night will be like or why people show up some nights and not other nights. For the first time, though, come on Friday night and pay the $50 then you get in the Saturday night that weekend for free. From then on you pay for each night you come. Also, the more you are a "regular" there and make friends and are seen there the easier it is to actually make a connection and hook up with someone there.  While you are there, ask about how the Friday and Saturday crowds are, because it changes from time to time.

What should I wear?
On your way to the club wear what you would wear when going to a nice bar or decent restaurant.  The dress code rules on the website basically mean that men shouldn't show up in sweatpants or a tanktop.  Wear a nice respectable t-shirt, nice jeans, cargo shorts, dress pants. Basically whatever you would wear to Montgomery Inn for dinner, wear that to the club for your first visit and see what you would feel comfortable wearing the next time.

Now once you get inside it's a whole different world.  When women get to the club and relax, many of them change into sexier clothing.  The clothes that women find that look really good on them but are a little too revealing to wear out in public -- the Club is a great place to wear them without getting arrested for indecent exposure.  Same thing for lingerie.  How much do you really wear your more provocative lingerie around home?  At the Club it can be your perfect outfit for the whole night!  They do try to keep it a little warm in there to accomodate people who don't wear much clothing.

A lot of men don't change clothes at the club, but you can if you want to.  A lot of women complain that they are the only ones that get "naked", and would like to see more men get undressed, even if it is taking their shirt off.  But wearing whatever you came in is fine, and if you have fancier clothes then feel free to use the locker room to change.

What if I see someone I know?
This is a fairly common concern when you first go to a club.  We were concerned, but we live in the SAME EXACT TOWN as Club 440, and we went there for 7 months without running into someone at the club that we knew beforehand.  And when we did, it was people that lived an hour away that we were really happy to see and find out they were enjoying this too.  If you DO see someone you know, they are there for the same reason, so what are they going to say?  People that come to a Swinger club are masters at "what goes on at the club stays at the club".  It's in everybody's best interest to keep everybody's privacy intact.

What is the square root of pi?
Approximately 1.772453850905516027298167483314

How many people will be there?
You will usually find between 75 and 200 people at Club 440.  Usually Fridays are busier than Saturdays right now, but special theme nights and events, especially Halloween, New Years Eve, and other special nights can make some Saturdays very busy.

What do I do if someone is bothering me?
If they continue bothering you after you tell them "No, leave me alone", simply walk up to one of the staff and let them know the issue.  If you can't find staff walking around in the club, go to the DJ booth and let the DJ know.  The DJ can use a radio to let other staff and the club owner know about the situation.

Are there many bi-sexual females at the club?
It appears that being bi-sexual is common for women in the Swinger community.  A good estimate is that half of the women at Club 440 are bi-sexual, or at least strongly bi-curious, and that totally includes wives in a married couple.  It is not a "hidden" thing at all.  Most women are very open about if they are "bi" or not.

Are there bi-sexual males at the club?
Totally opposite to the bi-sexual female population, bi-sexual men are pretty scarce.  If they do come to the club, they usually are not very open about it.  This is one of those strange quirks of the Swinger lifestyle that promotes openness ... except in this area.  The Swinger websites, however, are much more neutral about bi-sexual guys.  If you are looking for one, check on the websites before you look at a club.

Are single guys welcome at Club 440?
Yes.  From discussions we have had with people that visited other clubs and our brief visits to other clubs ourselves, it appears that Club 440 is probably the friendliest club to single guys in the region.  Now, that doesn't mean that single guys are going to find it extra easy to hook up at 440, it just means that they are treated respectfully and not treated like they "have 3 eyes" as some single males have said they feel they are treated like at some other clubs.  Keep in mind that since a lot of women coming to the club are bi-sexual (or at least bi-curious), a lot of them are looking for couples with a female or a single female versus a single male.  However, we do know that there are some couples that do specifically seek out single men for their female to play with, so be open to couples -- don't just go looking for single females at the club.

Also, the more you are a "regular" there and make friends and are seen there the easier it is to actually hook up, unless you are just a really good-looking guy. But even the non-good-looking ones that hang out, mingle, play pool, and come often have a great time and get some action. The more polite, social, and respectful you are the better -- I have actually seen firsthand a woman that was not interested in a single guy change her mind when he was so polite and respectful in approaching her, and he left a happy man.  Also, there are some couples that won't play with married men without their wife's approval, but there are also ones that are pretty much "don't ask, don't tell".

Are single girls welcome?
Single females are basically cherished at almost all swinger clubs.  "The club is your oyster", so to speak.  Single females are welcome additions to almost all couples and groups that are playing, so it is mostly a matter of preference of the female and attraction between everyone involved.

What should I be prepared for?
Be prepared to see people dressed in anything from suits to full nudity.  Be prepared to see people sitting in chairs not making eye contact, people mingling and socializing, girls doing pole dances, couples making out or having sex at a table, and anything and everything in between.  Be prepared to see sober people, people drinking, but most of all people having fun and enjoying themselves.  Be prepared and have condoms ready in case someone finds you as interesting as you find them.  Be prepared to get out on the dance floor and dance with a girl or a guy to show them you are interested in them and willing to "put yourself out there" to let them know.  Be prepared for anything, but expect nothing.  Everyone is there to have fun and make their own decisions about what they do there.  You are paying to get in and help the owner pay the bills from running a  convenient and private facility, not paying for sex or any kind of expectation of anyone having sex with you.  Be prepared to enjoy a wonderful sexy atmosphere that we think is way better than a strip club.  Just be prepared to have fun!



What is the bottom line?
Club 440 is full of exceptionally nice people.  Just go there an find out for yourself.  And ask the DJ to point us out and come say Hi!

108 comments:

  1. Thank you SO MUCH for this post. The club website does not do much to describe what goes on there and what can/can't be expected to happen. From the description of the locker rooms, I assumed it was an "on-premise" sort of place but wasn't sure and the admission fee is a bit much to get to a place like this and find out it wasn't what you were expecting. Hubby and I were discussing maybe going and doing the "chained door" sort of thing but from the site it was hard to tell if that was a possibility (we like the idea of being watched but aren't sure if we're ready...or ever will be ready...for full on swinging).

    Again, thank you so much for this article. I hope the club adds a link or shares some of this info on their site one day. It took me some digging to find this!

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  2. Glad to help! Yes, everyone has different desires and comfort levels, and clubs are a good place to explore them with some safety nets, so to speak. If you like the idea of the chain across the doorway, but want to ease into it, there are two rooms with small windows downstairs. You can open the blinds and one or two people can enjoy watching through the window. There are usually plenty of people that will take advantage of a free show!

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  3. My husband and I have been looking at going to the 440 club but we have seen nothing that references the age group of the guest majority. Can you shead some light on this?

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  4. Club 440 is fairly diverse, both in the age and ethnicity of its members, which is probably the reason we haven't even thought to mention it. We have met 21 year olds all the way to 80 year olds there. But there is a slight resemblance to a bell-shape curve, with some exceptions.

    On a normal night, which is around 150 people we would say, we usually see 5-10 people that are early 20's. We don't see all that many in their late 20's unless there is a special event going on, but there is a big jump in the number of people in their early 30s. The majority of people are usually mid-30's to late 40's. There are a fair number of people there in their 50's too, but the numbers drop off in their 60's, and those in their 70's and 80's are seen occasionally, but not every week.

    However, do NOT make assumptions that this represents the percentage of swingers there are in the general population for these age groups. This is just what we observe at Club 440, and if you look on the swinger websites where a lot of the couples are 50+, those couples may simply be "empty nesters" that can invite people to their houses more easily than the younger ones with kids at home.

    Also, when we started going we were afraid it would be pretty much "all white", but we are happy to see usually 10-30% of the crowd representing other skin colors depending on the night, far more diverse than we see in "regular bars" outside the 275 loop.

    Hope this helps!

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  5. thank you for this post my husband and i are interested in going to this club, just to see what it is like and you answered alot of our questions that we have about the club

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  6. You are very welcome. After a visit or two perhaps you can come back and add anything we didn't cover already that stood out to you? Hope you have a blast!

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  7. What about weight of people? My husband and I have talked about visiting Club 440 but are rather over weight and don't want to feel uncomfortable.

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  8. Body weight is nothing to be concerned about at Club 440. There is a huge variety of body types and shapes there, from very heavy to very thin, and lots in-between. And being on either extreme doesn't deter some women from stripping down and dancing at times. But it's a place of freedom ... you can show up and you don't have to do anything you don't want to! We are aware that there are other clubs that do tend to cater to a certain body type (just like with clothing stores) but 440 welcomes all sizes, shapes, and colors.

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  9. ok from my first time being at 440 i had a blast i went wth a female frind of mine she is on the heavy side and im average size and we both seen the toothpick builds to the real heavy side we also seen people wth handycaps there so 440 is open club that doesnt discriminate im still trying to get the wife to come up wth me i finaly got her to say she will go to check it out but now it is trying to find the time we both have off to come

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  10. My wife and I will be visiting family in the next month or so and we definitely want to try out this club. We "collect" clubs, finding them in many of the cities we visit, so this will be a welcome addition! :-)

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  11. What if im not sure do you guys offer tours to give to perspecting new swingers???

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  12. To be clear, we are not employees of Club 440 or any club, nor do we speak for the club owners. However, you can expect that due to the nature of swinger clubs and respect for the privacy of the members you only get a tour AFTER you become a member of a swinger club, including Club 440. There just isn't much of a way around that. The best you can do is ask questions in the club's Yahoo email group (most swinger clubs have one listed on their website) and read up on the club the best you can before you go. Memberships to any of the clubs around here are in the $50-60 range, which is around the price you would pay to get in on subsequent weekends, so you aren't really having to put down a lot of extra money up front just for membership, just in case you decide the club is not for you. But if you have found this website, read through the postings, and are now reading this comment, chances are a swinger club would be right up your alley.

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  13. so my husband and i have been thinking about visiting a club and have looked at club 440 and it seems to be a good fit for us. I guess my one fear is sexually transmitted diseases. Is it like an honor system that you just don't do that or what?

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  14. Regardless of whether you go to Club 440, or another swinger club, or post an ad on Craigslist, you will have to address the issue of avoiding STDs.

    Unfortunately you can never really be certain that anyone is STD-free in a social setting. Even people who say they have been tested can lie or if they have had sex with anyone since the test then the test results are technically now uncertain and invalid. However, as we mentioned in another article, you just don't hear much about STDs in swinger circles. Most swingers are pretty hygienic and serious about their sexual health.

    With that balance of factors in mind there are a lot of people who still choose to share intimacy with others on a regular basis. The key points are to always use a condom during intercourse (see our post on condoms elsewhere), pick people who also always require the use of condoms, and listen to your gut feelings about people you meet. All of these tips are easier to follow if your alcohol use is moderate, so keep that in mind when you are considering meeting new people that you might have sex with.

    The bottom line is that as a swinger couple you have to take the same precautions that you do as individuals when you choose your sexual partners. But in our experience we will choose intimacy with a respectful swinger couple that always uses condoms over many of the other options out there.

    Hope this helps!

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  15. Went this past weekend LOVED IT!!!!! GREAT NIGHT SO MUCH FUN!!!!

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  16. would Club 440 be the place for a single man to go to and have a goodtime.

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  17. As we have hinted here and in other postings, we have heard repeatedly from others that 440 is the friendliest swingers club to single guys around. Some couples and individuals prefer to avoid single males, but there are many that are looking for them the same way many couples are looking for single females. Single guys don't have to be the "guests" of a couple to get in like some other clubs require on certain nights, so head to 440 and give it a try!!!

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  18. My wife and I are going to go to club 440 on Friday for the first time. We were looking for any special events that might be happening the night but the calendar on the site does not work. Any insight on what is going on that night? And any suggestion on when we should get there?

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  19. There doesn't appear to be a theme this Friday, Jun 22, 2012, so just make plans to come and people watch! That's what we did the first night, and soaking it all in kept us plenty busy.

    Getting there early, meaning between 8pm and 9pm, is a good plan the first night. That lets you see the club when it is fairly quiet and you can chat with others easily, then they turn the music up at 10pm and you can see the build-up to around midnight as the tables and dance floor fills up and some people start ditching their clothes. The latest we would recommend arriving is 11pm if at all possible, even though the front door is usually open until midnight.

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  20. We are planning on being at Club 440 Friday 7/6. I thought I read somewhere that there were showers at the club....is that true???

    Thanks!!!!

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  21. Yes, there are two showers that any member can use. One is inside one of the restrooms so it is totally private, and the other is in a common area but has a curtain.

    If you are not able to shower before you arrive you are welcome to bring extra clothes to change into so you will be fresh and clean in case you get the opportunity to play with others.

    Additionally, if you get into things hot and heavy when you are playing, feel free to make use of the showers to freshen up afterwards.

    If showering is a part of the fun, either with a partner or just being watched, that is fine too. And remember, the shower curtain in the common area does not HAVE to stay closed all the way...

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  22. How many rooms are there. 150 people there. Club I was at in the past it was difficult to find a room

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  23. At Club 440 there are 6 private rooms. Plus there is a large open area upstairs where 7-8 couples can play at once. Yes, the room sometimes fill up, but it is all about timing. Rooms tend to be busiest between 12am and 2am, so try to head there before or after and you'll have a much better shot.

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  24. I'm curious, are there any DOM/sub type relationships at the club, or do they ever have a bdsm themed night?

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  26. Club 440 is pretty open to whatever type relationship you'd like to have there, and they DO have a "dungeon room" to play in. Occasionally they do have a BDSM theme night sponsored by individuals or local groups in the scene, but it is not often. You can join the Yahoo group for the club to find out about their theme schedules.

    Our personal observations are that there is only a small amount of overlap between the swinging community and the BDSM community. A lot of swingers are pretty tame in their sexual activities, except that they tend to include more people than totally "vanilla" people.

    Hope that helps!

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  27. Recently went to a club in Columbus Ohio with my girlfriend. The P Club was our first attempt at this kind of thing. Had a good time there. We were looking for the female to female conncection which we did find and enjoyed. My question, how does Club 440 compare to this club.

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  28. There is a fairly simple answer to that -- The P Club is in a class all by itself. It is the "Club Med" of swinger clubs, so to speak. There are a lot of people that travel there from out-of-town, just like you did, and it is bigger and fancier than any other club we are aware of in the region. It tries hard to be an "upscale" club, catering mostly to couples and single females, and it focuses more on the "experience" versus the social aspect, all the way to having a VIP section with an upcharge (for those who want to avoid the riffraff like us, LOL!). Chances are you'll want to dress up a bit to go there, too.

    Club 440 is more focused on the people and being inclusive versus being upscale and exclusive. It is more like going to a neighborhood restaurant or bar instead of the place you go to for your anniversary. The thing we love the most about 440 is the diversity of people there. The variety of ages, races, and body types makes us want to keep an eye on the door to see what kind of person walks in next. The biggest difference we noticed was that at Club 440 it seems much easier to break the ice and get to know people, so for that reason alone it is why we recommend anyone starting out to make Club 440 your "starter club".

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  29. I plan on visiting Club 440 soon. What would you recommend dress wise? Suit and tie or semi-casual sweater and Dockers/cargo pants?

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  30. The typical answer is "dress to impress", but yeah, that doesn't tell you how far you should go. After you have been there once you will have an idea just from seeing what others wear, but for the first time visit...

    We would probably recommend for men to wear whatever you would wear to a nice bar if you had a chance to go home first (not straight from work in a suit). Here are some pointers:

    You want to look like a "fun" person to be around, not formal and stiff.

    This place is not about money, it is about looking approachable and handsome, so leave your fancy watch, gold chains, Armani suit, and bling at home.

    Try a nice, dark, button-up shirt and some black slacks if you already have them in your wardrobe. Dark red, maroon, purple, or blue will look classy. White or light color button-up shirts may make you look more business-y than you'd like.

    If you really only feel at home in jeans, wear your nicest ones with a button-up or polo shirt, or a nice sweater or pullover shirt (not too warm). Avoid t-shirts your first time until you get a feel for what kind of t-shirts fit in there.

    Wear a nice friendly smile. If you look nervous and unapproachable then people probably won't approach you. Instead give a friendly smile and nod to women AND men as you greet them. If a lady is there with a guy, ignoring the guy is bad form.

    Wear your dancing shoes! One of the best ways to get involved and show women you are fun is to just get on the dance floor and dance. Dance near but not "with" others at first and see how things go. Asking a couple off the dance floor if you may dance with the lady can score points too.

    Lastly, keep in mind that the main social & dance area has a lot of blacklights. With most outfits it does not matter, but sometimes people really stand out wearing a white shirt that glows under blacklights.

    Hope this helps!!!

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    1. One additional thought on what men should wear to a swinger club like Club 440. The standards for men in a couple are different than the standards for single men.

      Men in couples can get away with more casual (and sometimes more tacky) clothing than single men. For example, you may see the guy of a couple wearing a shirt with some sexual joke on it such as "I am not a gynecologist, but I'll take a look". Chances are if a single guy shows up at a club in a shirt like that they will probably not be taken seriously by the majority of people there. Stick with stylish for your first few times and vary your wardrobe based on what seems like will work.

      If you are a non-conformist and want to stand out, then you are already ignoring all this and have your own style anyway.

      In the end, it's whatever you feel comfortable in and attracts the kind of people you are looking for.

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  31. Do you have any suggestions to make a first time visit by a straight single woman that is new to the Cincy area and hasn't made friends in the lifestyle yet a little nore comfortable about what to expect?

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    1. That is an interesting question because your options are wide open. One of the things that is somewhat unique to swinging is that in general, the women have the power, not the men. Since women are usually the ones being sought after, especially single women, the respect-based environment of a swinger club gives women the final say in almost all situations.

      With that said, you have to figure out what it is that you really want. And honestly, until you come and meet some of the people you won't really know what your options truly are. You'll run into everything from couples looking for a girl only for the wife to play with, to single guys wanting to play alone, to couples looking for a live-in girlfriend, and so many other combinations of things that we have lost track. The exciting part for you is that YOU get to decide what you want and when you want to cut things off. At a swinger club, "NO MEANS NO". Everyone should honor this to the letter, and if anyone doesn't, you have a club full of people that will step in and take care of it for you if you bring it to their attention.

      The biggest thing to remember at a swinger club is that YOU, as a single female, are a treasured rarity. A significant majority of the people there are looking for you, and you get to be the picky one who decides who gets your attention.

      And it doesn't have to be about sex. Some single women come just to dance on the pole, some only come to dance line dances, some come just to be able to wear sexy clothes and not get groped without permission. It's all up to you to decide what you want and to say NO if you change your mind.

      As far as how to feel comfortable at the club, one possible approach is to look for friendly couples when you arrive that are obviously "there together", and talk to them and find a couple that is NOT looking for a single female. If they aren't trying to keep you to themselves, so to speak, they may be a good choice to be your guides and help you find the kinds of people you are looking for.

      Hope this helps some. Go give it a try, and don't be afraid to go your first time planning only to people-watch so you can make better plans for your next visit.

      -WeRunWithScissors

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  32. Yo I been ther 1 time so for and fuckin love it. Wil I go back? U damn right I wil. Just wish it was a Lil cheaper.

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    1. If price is an issue, try to go on Fridays where it is $30 for single guys, or get there between 8pm and 9pm on Saturdays when you get in for 1/2 price ($25 for single guys). Prices are always subject to change, so make sure you check the website for pricing or ask the staff while you are there. The membership fee never changes, but the $50 you paid for membership was one time only.

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  33. Is it unusual for a single girl to arrive without anyone else or is it pretty easy to jump right in and start meeting people there? Unfortunately, I don't have a friend that would be interested in this kind of atmosphere

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    1. When you go, simply ask the staff member that gives you a tour to introduce you to some people that they trust. The people there are pretty friendly. If all else fails, just hang out at the DJ booth and the DJ can help introduce you to people that come up to make song requests.

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  34. I just want to say that this club looks perfect. I will be joining with a friend but she wont be available to go all the times I will be able to. If there are any single girls who would like a friend to go with, I would enjoy doing it. I too worry about my first time but know after being there just 1 time, everything will feel much more relaxing. I am still not sure about what to wear. I would feel funny being fully dressed there but dont know if just wearing sleep pants or shorts would look out of place too if most others are wearing more. I really just love having all my clothes off but afraid to really stand out. Thanks for a very informative website.

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  35. Just come dressed in nice jeans and a nice shirt. Maybe boxers underneath. Then you can get undressed as you feel comfortable. Oddly enough, you would probably stand out more wearing sleep pants than nothing at all.

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  36. went to 440 for the first time.we enjoyed it but even though the smoking is in another room off to the side the smoke was still heavy in the dance room.we had a problem with that.

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    1. One thing to note is now that it is warmer the smoke is not coming in the building as much. Also, they installed a door closer to automatically close the door so people don't have to remember to push the door closed when they go in and out of the outside smoking area. Both those factors have helped a lot.

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  37. I am a married man and would like to attend by myself, is this O.K.?

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      There are some couples that won't play with married men without their wife's approval, but there are also ones that are pretty much "don't ask, don't tell". The only way to find out is to talk to people there. And keep in mind that there are married women who come alone, too.

      However, if you are just going to observe and enjoy the atmosphere, it really doesn't matter if you are married or not.

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  38. as a couple we are thinking of joining we are more into watching and being watched I guess we would like to know as a married couple would we have to use a condom. i would think not and talk about the rooms are they beds or just open areas and are they cleaned in between couples or groups using them. i know most use condoms but as a married couple together we would prefer not to use them.

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    1. Condom use is a personal choice. If you are are married and you don't use condoms at home there is no significant reason to use condoms when having sex together at the club.

      The rooms have mattresses and the club supplies sheets that you take into the room with you to put on the mattresses. Members are asked to clean up after themselves when they are done with a room.

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  39. One trend worth mentioning is that we are noticing what appears to be an increase in the number of single women who are coming to the club in the last year. Our speculation is that between word-of-mouth and the fact that Club 440 does not restrict attendance of single males, more single females are attending because they have wider options than other clubs. A single female can more readily find single males, couples, and other single females to play with in this environment, and that seems to be a win-win situation for everyone!

    As a side note, the longer we are swingers the more we are reminded to not make assumptions. Don't assume what a person or a couple is looking for until you talk to them. ANY person or couple could be looking for YOU. And don't assume that all the people at the club are on any of the swinger websites. So if you don't go out to a swinger club and mingle, how are they going to find you? ;-)

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  40. I want to go but, how is this legal??

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    1. That is a ridiculous question ... only because I can't believe it hasn't been asked before. It is a question we have had answered over time by various people, but it is a very good question that many people have probably been wondering.

      A swinger club is legal because of a few very specific factors:
      (A) At swinger clubs you are paying for membership and/or admission. You are NOT paying for sex, which IS illegal.
      (B) A swinger club is an organization, or a gathering of people that may or may not have sexual contact with each other, just like can happen in your own home if you invite people over. As long as it is done in private and you are not paying for sexual acts it is ok.
      (C) All swinger clubs that we know of in Ohio are BYOB and do not have licenses to sell alcohol. A liquor license in Ohio restricts what activities can occur in the licensed establishment, and in general forbids sexual activity and/or nudity.
      (D) The building is essentially a meeting place, a private facility just like a reception hall, conference center, convention center, or a hotel. In fact, there are swinger organizations that meet only in hotels (often referred to as "hotel parties"). It is the same principle but in a different setting.

      Officially there are "landed" clubs and "non-landed" clubs. A "landed" club has specific land or facilities that it associates itself with, so they tend to meet in the same place every time. A "non-landed" club is one that is more like a book club, or a travel club, where they are more of an organization to share information with members, but they don't have an official building or place they meet at regularly, and if they do meet they pick a time and place out of interest and/or convenience.

      So why do people go to a "landed" club like Club 440 instead of meeting at people's houses or a hotel or somewhere else? Mainly it is for consistency and/or the facility itself that provides added value to the members. Knowing the club is open/meeting every Friday and Saturday night at the same location and has privacy, a dance floor, "stripper" pole, snacks, soft drinks, a pool table, a large group area with mattresses for members to use, and private rooms with mattresses is a big draw for many people.

      We could go on, but that is probably most of the information you were looking for. So head on out to the club!

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  41. My wife and I would go but she was asking if you had a gloryhole room? We have looked for one all over. It would be great if you did.

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    1. Club 440 actually does have a room with a gloryhole. It's not your typical gloryhole, since rather than a hole it is a 10"x10" trapdoor that can be opened and closed on the door to one of the rooms there.

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  42. We recently attended the club and I want to share my impression with those who have not visited. Keep in mind this review is our impression based upon that Friday night. Nothing more, nothing less.

    There is a diverse demographics of those who were there that night. It was pretty much as previously described on this web page. Most importantly the people are friendly and considerate.

    The club facilities need work ... a lot of work. The sound and light system seem old. The DJ wasn't very good. We met this very nice woman on our tour, but she needs to learn how to better mix the music. On a number of times she empted the dance floor by playing tunes that didn't mix well with dancing. We were there an 1.5 hour before any Pit Bull played (which is quintessential dance music). There are plenty of tables but not near enough chairs for guest to sit. The pool table is horrible ... bumpers are broken and there is a huge prominent tear in the cloth (6" long by 1" wide). They need to take some of the .50 to play pool to repair the table.

    Upon arrival a friendly gentleman made apologies for the club's interior early in our tour. It's good that he addressed the obviously dated interior right away. Our guide told us everyone is "down to earth" so that's why the club looks the way it does. A club's interior and quality of members are mutually exclusive. Having been to clubs from Fort Lauderdale to Los Angles, I can tell you that a nice interior does not mean guest are not friendly. Could this be the reason there are no club pictures on it's web site?

    Here's something I've never seen at any club like this or any kind for that matter. The owner grabbed the microphone to ask the crowd to quite down while she advertised an up coming auction. It was different. A few well placed hand bill around the club would have worked better.

    With the alcohol stored in a large community refrigerator it is pretty much the honor system. Mixers amount to soda. The food was hot dogs, chili, chips and cookies. For the most part the ladies were dressed to kill. It was almost worth the price of admission just to watch the sexy ladies. Most of the men were well dressed, however the were a lot of gentlemen were in plain tee shirts and jeans. I was taken a back by this. I'm guessing these guys are club regulars and give a free pass on "dress code". Even the fellow who gave us the tour was dressed in a tee shirt and jeans.

    All in all the club is worth the trip. The club is safe and secure which is very important. The crowd was very lively and people friendly on the night we attended. Some may say you don't need some of the items critique above to have fun at a club like this. After all you're there for just one reason ... sex. Right? I disagree. Any good meal is not judged by the meat alone. It's judged by the sides dishes, drinks, service, desert, etc. If I owned the club and drew large crowds like this, I wouldn't throw money back into the club either. Club 440 won't be mistaken for classy. The bottom line is we will return if we find ourselves in Cincinnati again. Thanks for reading.

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    1. In our opinion, this is a very honest and well-rounded assessment of Club 440, warts and all. We won't make excuses for any shortcomings listed, as every club has them. People should simply be aware of them and set their expectations appropriately. There are definitely better places to go if you want upscale facilities, but we go to Club 440 for the people ... sweet and simple.

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  43. How hard is it for a couple to find a woman to play with

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    1. There is no good answer for this, sorry. Too many factors play into it.

      Do you care if she smokes? Does she care if you smoke? Condoms or "bareback"? Tall, short, plump, thin? Hair color? Skin color? Race? Personality? Does the guy get along with her? Does the woman get along with her? What is SHE looking for? Etc., etc., etc..

      The only way to find out is try, and the good news is that chances are you'll meet some cool people along the way.

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  44. Is there any kind of contract or testing that encourages members to be D&D free? I guess I would worry that in this kind of situation an STD could spread pretty quickly.

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    1. No, there is nothing so formal as contracts or any STD testing requirements enforced by Club 440 or any other club that we are aware of in the region. This is something that each individual must handle on their own. Condom usage goes a long way toward being "safe" (see our posting here: http://www.cincyswinging101.com/2009/09/condoms-bareback-and-latex-allergies.html ) In general, individuals who do not require condom usage are a greater risk for you if you play with them even with condoms. But in the end, it's all about everyone being adults and making their own (hopefully informed) decisions.

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  45. Is the crowd a diverse crowd?

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    1. Please read our comments about diversity above. We cover it fairly well.

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  46. i'm a single male 25, any tips on how to introduce myself the first time I go. ill be honest im a rookie at this swinger stuff. any advice much appreciated, I just don't want to accidentally offend anyone or cross a line unintentionally.

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    1. Our best suggestion is to read through all the postings (not just this one about Club 440) in our blog (and the comments) and you will see that we have given several pieces of advice for single guys. Perhaps one that we have not stressed enough is to just go and plan to observe and don't push yourself too much to interact the first time you go. Once you see how things unfold throughout an entire evening you will have a much better idea of how to approach things on your next visit.

      Keep in mind that on your first visit you will get a tour from someone at the club, and you can go back to your tour "guide" if you have any questions throughout the night. So, come just expecting to observe and learn, but be prepared for more ... just in case.

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  47. Greetings all! We really appreciate everyone reading and posting questions and comments. However, this is not the place to post messages looking for other people to go with you to Club 440 or anything else.

    The places to find other people to meet are covered in another posting. Scroll up to the top of this page and look on the right side to find "Swinger Websites" and click on it. Then find "Swinger Personals Websites" to read about it. Or you can copy and paste this link into your browser:
    http://www.cincyswinging101.com/2009/10/swinger-personals-websites.html

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  48. This might be a dumb question, my wife and I are thinking about attending the club as first timers. You often refer to condom preparation. Is there more oral sex or intercourse? If we just want to experience oral sex first, is it still necessary to have condoms? Can you offer to play with oral sex only?

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    1. We probably see more oral sex out in the open, but in the private rooms and in the upstairs "couples" loft area there is a lot of intercourse going on.

      The thing to point out, though, is that YOU decide what you do at the club (and at ANY respectable swinger club). If you only want oral and say NO about intercourse then that is it, there should be no more discussion. Stick to what you and your partner decide beforehand, even if things get hot and steamy.

      The best policy is to tell people you become interested in that you are "oral only" up front. That avoids confusion and hurt feelings later.

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  49. My wife and i are planning a visit to the club this Friday and was wondering if bdsm and light cross dressing is a accepted here . We were planning on puuting on a scene in the doungon room with the door chained so we can be watched by others bit also we don't want people to freak out

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    1. BDSM is not new at the club, and if you do it open-door it will likely have spectators if it is after 10pm. One note is that door chains were recently removed, so work that into your plans.

      The light cross-dressing would probably be taken in stride in the dungeon room, but outside of there it may raise some eyebrows.

      Keep in mind that even though swingers are open-minded about WHO they have sex with, there are many swingers that are not very open-minded about HOW they have sex. It's a bit of an irony and/or hypocrisy, but that is the tendency we have seen.

      So, our unofficial recommendation is that you try things out in the dungeon room only at first. Then if things go well for you, talk to Pam, the manager there, before venturing out into the main social area with the crossdressing. Best of luck!

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  50. Hi, I truly appreciate the blog you have here, my husband and I had many discussions about the lifestyle and are considering joining club440 and reading your topics has pretty much sealed the deal. We have some experience with swapping in past (during our early 20's) and we are now wanting to reignite that fire again. We looked at craigslist and it seemed difficult to determine who was real and who was fake. The club seems to be the best option for us. He wants to watch me with another man and join in, and then progress to full swap, same room. What is your suggestion on starting a conversation with other members? Is it like an interview? Lol

    We look forward to your response ;)

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    1. Hi! Don't think of it like an interview, because there is nothing that formal that goes on. Think of it like a bar (that doesn't sell alcohol) where it is understood that a lot of the people are ok with being approached to "have a good time". Club 440 is a bit special in that they welcome single guys equally as they welcome single ladies and couples, which is great news for couples like yourself who are looking for single guys to play with.

      So if you are a couple looking for a guy, either of you can approach a guy that looks interesting to you and seems to be there by himself and ask if he would be interested in playing tonight with you (the female). If they say no, the important thing is to not take it personally because there are guys that could ask you that you are not interested in, so if it happens the other way around it is ok too. Just keep asking and see what happens. When there is mutual interest it is pretty easy to suggest going to find a room together. If there are no rooms open, consider finding a dark corner somewhere or a couch and see where things can go even before finding a room. Just have fun with it all, and keep in mind that some nights turn out to be just people-watching nights and not playing nights.

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  51. the wife and I are members and have been to the club twice. Is there a message board or a place where that we can meet members through e-mail or web cam before we show up. It would be nice to have "met" others before we arrive, to avoid sitting in the corner.

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    1. There is a "Join" link on the club440online.com website for their Yahoo group. We think you have to have a yahoo email account created and logged in before you can join it. You can correspond with members via email there, but there is no webcam or video chat. Our experience is that after meeting many people online and then meeting them in person, it's only a minor icebreaker because if there is no chemistry there the chat is usually very brief.

      Sitting in the corner is great if you don't want to be noticed or bothered, but it's not where you want to be if you want to meet people. We are both introverts who don't like big groups and neither of us really have friends we hang out with during the week. Because of that we had to go several times to get to know any people there, and if we were able to, anyone can. But we didn't let the lack of formal introduction services discourage us. We just decided to keep going because we liked the atmosphere and enjoyed being there together to people-watch, and eventually we had people we knew and were happy to see.

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  52. I clicked on the "Join" like and it said that the group was not found. Has anyone else had this problem?

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    1. We have heard that from some people, but every time we try it on different computers it asks us to sign in but doesn't say the group doesn't exist. The group definitely exists. If we hear of a solution we'll share it here.

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  53. My wife and I have been there 3 times now and have met some very nice people. Having said that, I wish the management would spend some money to spruce up the place. There is no place to sit if you arrive later than 9 or 10 o-clock. Some of the tables have only 2 chairs and if and old unused cooler and a pile of what seem to be broken chairs were removed at least a couple more tables could be added. The carpet is nasty but is expensive to replace but there is an electrical outlet in the locker room with a broken cover that has been broken for at least a month. I mean come on, they cost about 68 cents for a new one. I just wish they would invest a little back into the place.

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    1. Since we have been going there for 4 years we realize have a different perspective and it makes it easier to overlook some of the things that would stand out to new members. Conversely, we have seen changes that show they invest money back in to the place, and we are glad they spent the hundreds of dollars a few months ago to have padded bench seats added instead of just focusing on outlet covers. A lot of the money you can't even see, like replacing the sound system, electrical upgrades, and fixing a lot of the chairs even though people keep finding new and interesting ways of breaking them. And yeah, we know the there are fewer seats than there are people, but it has forced us to talk to people and "borrow" seats at times when we otherwise may have never gotten around to talking to those people.

      The bottom line is that we realize we don't go there for the seats, or the decor, or the music they are playing, or the food ... we go there for the people we meet. We can go other places for any of that other stuff, but this is the only place we've found where the majority of the people are open-minded and respectful and people can wear whatever they want and still feel safe.

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    2. You both are right. To new comers (pun intended) the club warts really stand out. But I think at the same time the regulars and owners are so accustomed to looking at the defect that they no longer notice them. I say this with respect ... so long as the new comers don't expect classy, then you'll have a good time.

      From my stand point, for heaven's sake, get some more chairs. There's no excuse for the lack of chairs.

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  54. So I've heard of the club, several friends have been there....well it's Saturday I'm single and not a thing too do tonight. Is a solo first timer recommended??

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    1. We have seen plenty of single women (and men) come to the club and not only have a blast but become regular attendees. Some have even found people who became their significant others there. Unless you REALLY want to jump in and have sex with someone right away, we suggest you keep mingling and moving on until you find a couple who is NOT trying to get you in bed with them to help you learn the ropes. Good luck!

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  55. Planning on checking out the club this weekend, but there are no events listed on the website. Does every night theyare open have a theme, and what impact do the different themes have on the club atmosphere?

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  56. Themes and events are always optional, and every night is different anyway. Often time non-theme nights are more "active" since there are fewer interruptions to the flow of the evening. In our opinion, we welcome the non-theme nights since what we feel like wearing on a given night often doesn't really match up with the theme or event. But we expect them to add themes again soon. Having a mixture of regular nights and a couple of theme nights per month (so they seem more special) is what we would love to see.

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  57. My fiance an I are going to be going Friday for the first time very excited I am 23 he is 25 we have been together 8 yrs we are ready to try new things we are open minded people but sometimes very shy we are new to this an I'm afraid that might be a problem it might scare me off I'm bi curious an have never tried any of this so we have no expectations we plan to just go an see how it plays out for us hopefully it works out for us :)

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    1. Being excited is the first step! Mostly everyone is nervous the first time they go and you won't be the only shy ones there so, no worries. When you arrive, you'll be given a tour of the place and feel free to ask the tour guide to introduce you to anyone who piques your interest (if you'd like). This can be an easy conversation starter. Talk lots to your fiance throughout the night (fun chit chat, likes, dislikes, naughty thoughts, things that make you giggly or things that make you uncomfortable).

      Think about what your answer will be when someone asks "what are you into" or "how do you play", as this is a question that is still not easy for us to answer, so maybe just say "well, it's our first night, so we aren't really sure" (or whatever cute or sexy thing you come up with).

      Having no expectations and being excited is perfect! Have fun Friday night! Hopefully you enjoy yourselves so much that you will be excited to go back.

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  58. Thanks that helps alot �� either way we will walk away happy we have did the whole strip club thing it just got boring but I'm sure there's endless possibilities at club 440 from the sounds of everything an everyone feedback ��

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  59. Thanks we went tonight had fun will deff return kinda stood back an watched an had a great time every one was very welcoming for our first time and we will be more prepared next visit :) thanks your advice helped ^^^

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  60. Meant to say the swingers web sight to meet other swingers is giving me run around sorry

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  61. I know you can't speak to any individual's specific tastes/preferences, but in general, would Club 440 members be open to playing with a pregnant woman, or would that be off-putting?

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    1. Wow! All we can say is that there are definitely guys that have been waiting for a pregnant woman to show up at the club! I (Mr. Scissors) have been waiting 4-1/2 years!!! Pregnant women are so very sexy! Some may have snuck in on nights we were not there, but we haven't really seen any obviously pregnant women there before.

      We are very aware that occasionally some unfortunate things all line up at once: a lady gets pregnant, her sex drive increases dramatically, and her guy gets turned off by her being pregnant. We both have a special place in our hearts for women in those situations and hopefully Club 440 will be a haven for them, and you if you are in that situation.

      So, yes, yes, yes, we believe people will be Very open to playing with a pregnant woman as long as she is wanting to play. We hope to see you there!

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    2. Thank you for being so welcoming! It certainly eases my fears about being out of place.

      You are right about pregnancy fueling an increase in my sex drive, which has increased my courage. I am up for trying something new! I plan to attend with my partner soon.

      I will be easy to spot. :)

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  62. I really appreciate your blog it has helped make the decision that my husband and I will check out the club for the first time but I have a question regarding BYOB. We are both beer drinkers so how do you recommend that we bring our beer in to the club? Should we put it in a duffle bag or are coolers ok?

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    1. If you are bringing sealed containers it really doesn't matter how you bring them. People carry in cases of beer in plain sight all the time, but usually liquor is brought in bags (paper, plastic, or duffle). When you get there you can put your beer in the refrigerated case (glass door refrigerator), so you don't NEED to bring a cooler, but you can if you feel like keeping track of it all night. We use a duffle bag just for our clothes, but whatever is comfortable for you is fine.

      Good luck and have fun!

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  63. JeffnJennifer here, looking forward to visiting 440, we've been to similar clubs in Memphis and Nashville, anything planned for New Years eve, we're both off .

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  64. Just so everyone knows, we removed a Jan 4 comment from "Dave" that was an an all-negative criticism of the club. Unfortunately comments that are all negative are not helpful, and they are far from our "if you can't say anything nice then don't say anything at all" policy.

    There are very few swinger clubs in Cincinnati. To many people the club is more about the people than the facilities. We understand that there are many fancier places in the USA, and others have told us of far less kept places as well. It is what it is.

    Our goal with our blog is to inform and help educate, not critique, so we will remove comments that don't align with that. Nothing personal ... it's just the way we choose to run our blog. Thanks!

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  65. Do u have porn at the club?

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    1. First of all, *we* don't have porn at the club because *we* don't own the club, we just attend. But the club does not show porn. Few clubs would because there are licensing issues with playing a copyrighted video for a group. Even bars technically have to have to pay for a public performance license to play a movie in their establishment.

      http://www.mpaa.org/contentprotection/public-performance-law

      So even though there would be some interest in having porn playing in a club like Club 440, it is not likely to happen.

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  66. Dude, so looking forward to going now! Thank you!

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  67. I'm so glad I stumbled across this blog! My husband and I had an experience with a female friend of mine 7+ years ago and have tried websites and craigslist to meet someone who would have the same interests but have come up short - and it's frustrating. I would like to meet a female friend to hang with in and out of the club. We have talked about this many many times and I am really excited to try this. I'm bi and he is straight.
    Husband is concerned if the common areas (dance floor/seating area) are "clean" - as in are there bodily fluids on chairs etc.? I read that the rooms are your responsibility to clean up when you are done but what of the other areas?

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    1. The club is a great place for couples with bisexual females to meet other bi females. A majority of the women there are bi, and some are definitely there as single females.

      People voice concerns about bodily fluids and such all the time. People afraid to ride public transportation, ride roller coasters, eat at tables in fast food restaurants, or things like that due to concerns about germs should never go to any swinger club anywhere ever. Most people are not THAT concerned, though. With that said, we don't see any semen or anything on seats or surfaces there. People at swinger clubs are usually pretty polite.

      The bottom line is that you really should treat a club like Club 440 as a social club first and foremost. Go there intending to meet people, not worrying about who sat where and did what in the past. If you meet the right person you can always take them home with you, go to a hotel, or just meet up again some other time somewhere else. Even though the club can be "one stop shopping" where you can meet and play, all of that is optional.

      So worst case, go there, bring your own drinks and some snacks, and wear comfy shoes so you can walk around and mingle rather than sitting and don't worry about bodily fluids on chairs. Once you get there you can establish your own feel for the place and decide if you want to jockey for the seats that people seem so fond of.

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    2. Hi, Im a bi-female looking for a friend to hang out with in/out of club as well and a couple to play with at times. Reading about the site, i think i may show up tonight. I have a lot of weekend nights that i stay home and am bored out of my mind, I'm a first timer to the club so going in with an open mind.

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    3. Baby jo,

      There are quite a few single women that have reached the same conclusion and attend the club almost every weekend. That sounds like a great plan. The double bonus is that you don't just get lots of sexy fun to be around and a part of if you want, the atmosphere is much safer for single women attending versus a regular bar since there is a certain level of respect clearly expected and enforced at the club ... not so at regular bars.

      Hope to see you there!

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  68. Hi! Thank you for this informative and well written blog. I am a nice and respect giving single male and have never been part of a swingers scene. Sounds alright and may join up. If I do, do you think they would allow me (or anyone) to bring a folding chair?

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    1. People bring alcohol (in sealed containers), sex toys and hardware, coolers, and bags for clothing. We can't imagine they would tell you no if you wanted to bring your own folding chair as long as you take it with you when you leave.

      Since the chairs people use at the tables are "bar height" rather than "table height" you may want to consider getting one of the foldable tall "directors chairs". Just a suggestion...

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    2. Thank you very much for the detailed answer. I'm a little late with the reply but I have been out of town for work and finally back for good. Have a wonderful day!

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  69. I just heard today or should I say yesterday that ownership of club 440 has changed hands in the last 6 months I was wondering if this rumor is true or not
    signed lovecouple1949 from SZC

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  70. Do you have a "twisted" night, or a rope night? Do you do any events that cater more to the "Fetlife" crowd?

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    1. Oddly enough, there are not as many swingers that are into kink and "Fetlife" kind of stuff as you'd think. Club 440 doesn't seem to have many nights like that where people demonstrate BDSM or other kink options.

      Our best suggestion is that you join some of the Cincinnati or Ohio-based Fetlife groups that have regular monthly-or-so meetings. Even though we have not attended any yet, we have heard good things about the groups in Cincinnati.

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  71. I have 2 questions for you. My girlfriend and I or in our early 20's 21 and 20 to be exact. I was wondering if it was 21 years of age to get in or does it depend on gender? Also my next question is if it 21 and up do you know somewhere else we could go to be around this environment?.

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    1. Damn good question does anyone know a place for younger cpls?

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    2. Technically, as long as you are 18 and not a minor there is nothing wrong with you being exposed to whatever sexual activities you want. But as soon as there is alcohol involved in any way shape or form, property owners get very cautious and exclude people that are not old enough to legally consume alcohol.

      Until you are both 21 your best bet is to find people to meet up with on Craigslist, the swinger personals sites you'll see in the banner ads at the bottom of the page, and even Fetlife.com. Keep in mind that most people your age are not as adventuresome as you, so most of the people you will run into are going to be older than you. Consider meeting up with older couples that are experienced and learn what you can from them, and then you can start "advertising" for people more your age and help them learn the ropes too.

      Seriously consider checking out the local groups on Fetlife.com that meet on a regular basis. A lot of them meet in places that do not serve alcohol and you would be welcome.

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